tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post9050775800305507506..comments2024-03-28T03:48:25.254-07:00Comments on Grumpy Art Historian: The value of women artistsMichael Savagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11557727287816852329noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post-84423972739311317532014-11-25T08:35:16.896-08:002014-11-25T08:35:16.896-08:00That argument how restricted women artists were so...That argument how restricted women artists were sounds convincing to people who are not well acquainted with reality.What woman was restricted to write a sonnet or paint scene about any subject in 1900? Would she be burned,imprisoned,sent to mercury mines in Siberia? Or just frowned upon at the party of the esteemed Veneerings from Our Mutual Friends?Women have iron will to do exactly what they want to do most especially in Occidental Culture.fantazoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09612699707665354289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post-39104639583575226232014-11-23T22:49:28.823-08:002014-11-23T22:49:28.823-08:00I quite agree, which is part of what I was getting...I quite agree, which is part of what I was getting at with the comment about the barriers to women becoming artists in the first place. To be fair the chaperoning was a more middle class thing, and Cassatt's economic status gave her other advantages relative to working class women who might have aspired to be artists. But the sins of the past have been committed, and their results are now set. What object to in JJ and his ilk is trying to set them right with gestures that set politics above art.Michael Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557727287816852329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post-16599783486436674832014-11-23T22:44:53.449-08:002014-11-23T22:44:53.449-08:00I think it's a strange perversion of liberalis...I think it's a strange perversion of liberalism, but I agree there is a lot of pretense involved. People don't argue, for example, than O'Keefe (or any other C20 female artist) is greater than Picasso, Braque or Matisse, yet they feign surprise when female artists sell for less than male. Nochlin was smarter in asking a prior question about how the canon is set and who becomes a 'great' artist, though that too proved a shallow furrow in my view.Michael Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557727287816852329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post-89708082851787980532014-11-23T21:24:49.649-08:002014-11-23T21:24:49.649-08:00.Of course O'Keefe is a lightweight and howeve....Of course O'Keefe is a lightweight and however vigorous the foam-beating it will never change the insubstantiality of her work.She stands right by Marie Laurencin and it amounts to Hallmark pleasing.. We only have such discussion because liberalism demands of us to pretend equality.fantazoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09612699707665354289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6454459186129750328.post-57295790700684701492014-11-23T17:10:40.775-08:002014-11-23T17:10:40.775-08:00Sometimes the exclusion of women artists was forma...Sometimes the exclusion of women artists was formal but sometimes it was very domestic. For example female Impressionist artists could not go out on the streets unchaperoned, thus they couldn't tap Paris' amazing street scenes like the men could do. I love Mary Cassatt's mother and baby studies and afternoon tea paintings, but she was very restricted.Helshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02849907428208235392noreply@blogger.com